Talking about the term "genocide" maybe this article is of interest.

@(((Dirk Weber))) Your lack of scruples is only surpassed by Putin.

it's almost like the atrocities by Ukraine against their own people in the East never existed. Yemen and Ethiopia don't exist. Genocide only exists when it's used for propaganda against the boogeymen you're booing during your guided 5 minutes of hate.

wow. yes please block me if you're really that ignorant and refuse to discuss like adults.

FYI: Russia doesn't need more real estate - look at a map. Already a russian pipeline going through ukraine. No this is not about real estate.

how do you define genocide? killing 10? 100? 200?

It is atrocity, but stop acting like it was a genocide.

Maybe that's all he wanted from the first place. To stop the killing of ethnic Russians and a land bridge to Crimea was a bonus.

The 3rd most powerful army in the world, the same army we don't want to go to war with, failed against a few nazi's. mmmmkay.

There is no use in personal insults if you want to discuss seriously.

The term "genocide" is well defined, you may find infos about that in the article which I linked above in this thread.

It is indeed hard to bear, but not each mass murder automatically is a genocide. We are talking about juridical terms. If you want to bring someone to court because of genocide then you present evidence to prove that indeed the conditions for this offense are met. Only in that case the defendant can be convicted. That makes the difference between a fair trial and lynching.

Yes, a mass murder has taken place, no doubt about that. And imho it looks like that Russian soldiers did it. This has to be seriously investigated and documented in order to bring this war crime to court.

How many freaking accounts does this lunatic Karen Clara has exactly.

Dirk don't waste your time by these idiots. It is not worth it.

They define terms as it fits them and call anyone who doesn't agree with them a Putin lover or other things.

Just ignore and move on.

We3ll, I still have the hope that also other users read this thread. And that they see my arguments. Some people in this thread (I know them from other threads) are indeed not wanting to discuss seriously. They prefer to insult personally, which imho is no god idea, but that is their problem.

@(((Dirk Weber))) It’s interesting what came to your mind first when you read this post. You are probably one of the leftists who reject the term “Unrechtsstaat” (unlawful state) for the GDR and who accept that a scumbag like Modrow is chairman of the Left Party’s council of elders and that Stasi informer Diether Dehm was put up for the Left Party to enter the Bundestag. Regrettably, with the fascist AFD and the Left Party, two parties are represented in the German Bundestag that should not be there.

?? In this thread I did not at all discuss the GDR, nor Die Linke or Mr. Modrow's opinions ( which for me personally are of no relevance).

What came first to my mind seeing the op was the term "genocide". Especially since both war parties accuse the other one of comitting genocide.

Imho it is necessary if you use juridical terms you have to know their definition. This is absolutely not denying the fact that a mass murder has taken place and imho it is rather probably been committed by Russian soldiers.

Dear Erwin, didn't you read my posts?

Dear Dirk, when the Russian army had already built up 100,000 men on the Ukrainian border, I read in particular that you wrote that NATO would prefer to march across Red Square in Moscow. You seem to have forgotten that.
And I wonder where the left’s admiration for Putin came from, at least before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. I can’t imagine that the left regarded Putin as the new Lenin. But perhaps it was because Putin served as a KGB officer in East Germany and that he acts like the Stasi did in the GDR, by arresting and murdering critics.

@Erwin Müller Tankies admire Putin because they are stuck with binary thinking.

They hate the USA, which is understandable - there are plenty of reasons to at least start hating the USA. But of course, the USA is very powerful, so they are desperate to cope with this power. They look for a powerful enemy of the USA to love and support. They cling to the dream that this powerful enemy will humiliatingly defeat the USA they hate so much. This turns into unconditional support. There is no atrocity or hypocrisy which they won't excuse and defend with whataboutism, outright denials, and claims the victims actually deserved it.

The really sad thing is that they pathetically overinflate the power of the USA in their own minds. They see everyone that doesn't hate the USA as obedient submissive USA puppets, rather than simply folks who have their own interests and goals. So they see the world as a blanket of USA vassals with only a few tiny spots of defiant resistance, rather than the reality.

But if they were willing to open their eyes to reality, then they'd have to give up their binary belief in USA = evil vs anti-USA = good. They'd have to admit to themselves that it actually matters what someone stands for or believes in other than simply believing USA = evil.

USA = evil.

does not automatically means

anti-USA = good

but in the binary mindset of people, any criticism av 70 years of shameful blood stain history of US with millions of death, means one must be supporting the atrocities of the other side

I read in particular that you wrote that NATO would prefer to march across Red Square in Moscow.

Correct. And I am still sure that that is the long trem goal of NATO.

And I wonder where the left’s admiration for Putin came from, at least before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

BS. Sorry, but this fairy tale of leftists admiring Mr. Putin is nonsense. A fine example of a well working propaganda against progressives.

There are a lot of very crude theorems in this world.

Of course it is true that leftists (and not only them) critize the US administrations because of their political agenda as the world's police force. There were countless war crimes, wars of agression, crimes against humanity etc. And in its interior the USA is a society still deeply racist, not willing to provide the basic human rights to its citizens. Etc., etc.

More than enough causes not to regard the USA as friends.

But does that mean that the same leftists are friends of Mr. Putin, or any other dictator in this world, who is not friend of the US government? No, of course not, why should they?

Modrow, the chairman of the Left Party's council of elders, wrote in the "Junge Welt" in January of this year:
»Wer in das gleiche Horn stößt wie die kapitalistischen Kritiker Russlands und Chinas, Kubas, Venezuelas usw. macht sich objektiv mit ihren erklärten wirtschaftlichen und politischen Gegnern gemein.«
I did not notice any distancing or calls for resignation from the Left Party and one could list numerous similar dubious statements from the Left Party.

Tbh I do not follow the statements of Die Linke as closely as you seem to do, I am no social democrat. This does of course not mean that your citation might be incorrect.

But as I said before, what Mr. Modrow says or does not say is not really of importance for me. I try to use my own brain.

I too think that the Left Party is completely useless and only brings the FDP into government.