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Jay Bryant diaspora
Then capitalism has to go, as I have said since I first learnt about socialism.
Non sequitur. It went out with the last century.
Bob Lai diaspora
Why is there a 'poverty level' metric, other than to establish a threshold for ignoring people in need?
Because they aren't ignored, that's why. It's for benefits eligibility.
Socialism went out with the last century, too.
Bob Lai diaspora
"Y'see, we want to help people from the lower class reach the middle class, and the middle class to stay there."
– George W. Bush

It's not socialism to want to see people receive the help they need, instead of being treated like a bunch of freeloaders. In 2016, to prepare for the Super Bowl and a public display by the Ferry Building, San Francisco 'relocated' the homeless people who congregated/slept in the area and put them in a shelter a couple of miles away.

When the Super Bowl was over, the 'shelter' was closed. The homeless people gravitated back to the plaza. They didn't receive benefits, and the shelter was only to push the ugly bits out of sight of the tourists flocking to spend money on Sportsball.
So people in public housing are just chopped liver, huh.
NOPE
donsimon diaspora
It's not socialism to want to see people receive the help they need, instead of being treated like a bunch of freeloaders.
The pathologic hatred of socialism seen in the USA is the result of a sustained propaganda campaign waged by the rich.Its been so successful that many people who would benefit from it are opposed , a result that would have Stalin himself laughing his balls off.In the USA this means for example health care is almost wholly for profit & insulin is available at the market rate, meaning folks become ill die or are impoverished.Sobthose against "socialism" keep lining up with the oligarchs until you become ill.
Bob Lai diaspora
People in public housing are equally despised, as when former HUD Secretary Ben Carson noted that he didn't want public housing to be too nice, as it wouldn't motivate people to work harder to improve their circumstances.

The poverty level is akin to the glass ceiling in the workplace. It marks you as one of the poor, undeserving of benefits/relief unless you jump through even more hoops.
Whuffo diaspora
It's worth noting that Fascism is violently opposed to Socialism.
donsimon diaspora
I was born in a slum for want of a better word.no indoor plumbing & a roof that leaked.Moving in to public housing at half the rent transformed our lives, especially my mum who was able to have a washing machine for the first time 8 years after becoming a mother.Thos who profess to hate socialism & their lackeys have destroyed most of what was good in education healthcare housing & public transport in the UK.Whilst profits have risen in the private parts of this system the services are basically destroyed & billions of pounds of public money have been ploughed in in bailouts & subsidies.
donsimon diaspora
1+@ Whuffo
The exception being so called National SocialismπŸ˜‰
People in public housing aren't homeless--that's the point. Yeesh.
Bob Lai diaspora
You're doing the 'if we call it this then it's not a crime' trick Greg Abbott is trying with his promise to eliminate rape.

Ben Carson was doing the 'I grew up in public housing, worked hard, and now I'm rich' act. He's an idiot (thinks the pyramids were used to store grain) doing the 'I grew up in poverty, you're just lazy' dodge.

His comment about setting limits on assistance is not about what people need, but what the rich will allow.

We also saw this with Pompeo's efforts to re-examine the unalienable rights in respect to American policy. It's to justify taking things away, not give people more.

And, then, of course, there's Roe. It's not 'deeply rooted' and equal protection under the law for women is an 'overbroad' application of the 14th Amendment.

Get your red gown and bonnet/wings ready.
I will thank you to cease misrepresenting me and my position, Bob. You'd look fetching in a red gown and bonnet/wings.
donsimon diaspora
Public housing isn't fit for purpose & with a 15 to 20 year waiting list in some parts of the UK it basically doesn't exist for most.Even working folks ate now living in cars & the amount of tent cities in the USA would seem to point to some kind of market failure.perhaps more capitalism is the answer?
Bob Lai diaspora
Take your own advice, Clara.
^^Bullshit Pee Wee Herman comeback
"mecha lecha hi mecca hiney ho", Jambi
Died slightly over a year ago, alas. 😒

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