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Sean Tilley pleroma (AP)
This one is for all the new people on #Mastodon: did you know that the #fediverse has more than just a microblogging replacement? And that they can all interoperate with your Mastodon account?

Check them out!
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David Bradley mastodon (AP)
Whatever happened to Diaspora? That was meant to be *the* Facebook replacement, I seem to recall...
Lily :verified_trans: mastodon (AP)
Diaspora as well can work for Facebook or is that not on the Fediverse?
Sean Tilley pleroma (AP)
@CounselingTechie Diaspora federates, but not with most fediverse platforms. They are doing their own thing with their own protocol.
Sean Tilley pleroma (AP)
@bastardsheep You don't use your Mastodon account to log in to these services. The interoperability is through federation, meaning that your Mastodon account can follow people on Pixelfed, PeerTube, etc, and be able to interact with their stuff from Mastodon.
Spencer friendica (via ActivityPub)
To add to this, imagine being able to follow your friend's Instagram posts from Twitter, and when you tweet a comment in response, it automatically shows up on Instagram.

That's sorta what this is describing. You can like, follow, or comment on the "Instagrams" and "YouTubes" of this network without ever logging into a separate account. The activity on these different services can all end up in your unified feed.

If you want to post your own "Instagram-like" photos and use that app's features, you'll need to register an account on an instance running that service.
Sean Tilley pleroma (AP)
You’ve got a few options.

Element is capable of video calls, and is a federated system using the @matrix protocol.

Jitsi is a bit more Zoom-like, and is pretty easy to use! Not federated, but totally open source.

Nextcloud Talk is a video conferencing platform that integrates directly into the Nextcloud platform. Open source, capable of federation with other Nextcloud servers, tons of benefits from the rest of the Nextcloud platform.
Jürgen Hubert mastodon (AP)
Missing: A Dating App replacement.

I am only half kidding.
Sean Tilley pleroma (AP)
@juergen_hubert actually, there are two projects for fediverse dating apps already.

https://github.com/lafnlab/Amore

https://github.com/Alovoa/alovoa
Spencer friendica (via ActivityPub)
Whoa. That's blowing my mind.
RCC friendica
If you want to follow a pixelfed account, just copy the handle of the account, including the instance ([email protected]) into the search on your mastodon. If someone on Pixelfed wants to follow you, they can copy your handle. Friendica has the most interopability
(((Baslow))) mastodon (AP)
You might want to consider adding
https://writefreely.org/
to your list
Amplify Chaos 🔸️ mastodon (AP)
ain't no party like a @HellaDoge party cuz a @HellaDoge party don't stop
Strypey mastodon (AP)
Great to see you active in the 'verse again and thanks for sharing this list with newbies, but...

@sean
> Facebook replacement: Friendica

... it's really not fair to Friendica to keep making this comparison. Neither the feature set nor the UI of Friendica are anything like modern FB, so calling it a FB replacement just sets people up for disappointment and poor first impressions. IMHO We don't yet have a complete, federated replaced for FB and it's better to just be honest about that.
Paul Sutton mastodon (AP)
@strypey
I agree here, we need to be careful with wording.

Rather than saying Friendica is a facebook replacement, we should perhaps think about the services within facebook it does or can replace and promote that.

Of course a lot of people would leave facebook, only they are unable to as they are in touch with people on there who also won't leave due to specific groups or friends.
Sean Tilley pleroma (AP)
I guess that’s fair. I just tend to see Friendica’s current resign as very reminiscent of what was good about Facebook’s UI prior to the Big Bad Redesign where it now looks like a PlaySkool interface.

I still think Friendica is a totally viable replacement, if you cut out the chat, games, zillions of client apps, marketplace, moments, and their video offerings.

Yeah, I guess they are pretty different nowadays.
Strypey mastodon (AP)
> if you cut out the chat, games, zillions of client apps, marketplace, moments, and their video offerings

In other words, ignore the vast majority of the features people use FB for, then the comparison holds. This is kind of my point ;)

Friendica definitely offers things that Mastodon and other micro-posting platforms don't and it's well worth promoting. I just think if we're promoting fedi tools as replacements for datafarms, there must be a more accurate comparison for Friendica.
Strypey mastodon (AP)
@fu
> I never "got" Twitter, similarly ... GNU Social

Ae, same here. I initially just used GNU Social and its crosspost-to-Titter as a way of spamming out links to my blog posts. But of course nobody could see my posts unless they could find me and follow my account. It took a while to click that they were unlikely to do that if I didn't follow and interact with other people on the platform. Which turned out to be way more fun than being a well-meaning spammer ;)

@sean @zleap
Dave Waghorn mastodon (AP)
I joined Diaspora* a few years ago and I'm a little surprised to not see it on the list. Is that seen as a rival to these Fediverse apps?
Martijn Vos friendica (via ActivityPub)
@Dave Waghorn @Sean Tilley Diaspora is not part of the fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub (the fediverse protocol) but has its own protocol. Friendica and Hubzilla can work with both.
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silverwizard friendica (via ActivityPub)
The fediverse is older than ActivityPub
Strypey mastodon (AP)
@fu Don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging Friendica here. I'm glad it serves you so well.

> I was a Facebook user from back when you had to have a .edu address...

I think this is the key point. You can compare Friendica to what FB was *then*. If folks compare it to what FB is*now*, they'll be left wondering why there's no equivalent to the events system, Messenger, public Pages, Marketplace, Livestreaming, etc etc. I just don't think the comparison serves Friendica adoption.

@sean @zleap
Strypey mastodon (AP)
@fu
> we need to be creating new and better projects that are mind-blowing development on their own

IMHO all the fediverse projects do something new and better. Federation is new and better than giant "cloud" server farms, and allows forms new forms of load balancing, moderation, and revenue models that aren't possible in centralized platforms. It's just an easy starting point for evangelizing to newbies if you can compare them with a platform they're already familiar with.

@sean

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