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Harry Göhde 1 month ago • diaspora

Olga Wisinger-Florian (1844-1926, Austrian)

Heuwagen

Hay Cart
Gemälde, Öl auf Holz, 21 x 12 cm

#OlgaWisingerFlorian #impressionismus #impressionism #kunst #art #paintings #gemälde #peinture

#art #paintings #peinture #kunst #impressionism #gemälde #impressionismus #OlgaWisingerFlorian

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Peter Krupa 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

just watched "Anora," loved it, it's in the same cinematic ballpark as "Zolla" and "Uncut Gems" i think it's like a real genre now??

Chris Trottier 4 weeks ago • pleroma (AP)

Time for some Indian-Chinese food!

Europe Says 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.europesays.com/1703837/ Allemagne : une voiture fonce dans la foule au marché de Noël de Magdebourg, plusieurs victimes #france

Allemagne : une voiture fonce dans la foule au marché de Noël de Magdebourg, plusieurs victimes - EUROPE SAYS

Allemagne : une voiture fonce dans la foule au marché de Noël de Magdebourg, plusieurs victimesby Shacken-Wan

^{EUROPE SAYS (EUROPESAYS.COM)}

#france

George Takei :verified: 🏳️‍🌈🖖🏽 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

😂

A social post from @benedictsred that says:
If you play The Grinch backward, his heart shrinks after interacting
with people and that's a lot more accurate.

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A Wolf in Cheap Clothing 4 weeks ago • calckey (AP)

Emissions in Canada fell last year, though still far off Paris targets

https://ground.news/article/emissions-in-canada-fell-last-year-though-still-far-off-paris-targets?utm_source=mobile-app&utm_medium=newsroom-share

Emissions in Canada fell last year, though still far off Paris targets

For the first time since the pandemic, Canada had a year-over-year decline in its greenhouse gas emissions — though it is still a long way off its 2030 target.

^{Sask Today (Ground News)}

Its Not A Hoax ☑️ 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Mina 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

There was a time (mid 80s or so), when I considered Wham to be a decent pop group.

At least, I never liked Modern Talking.

#FediConfession
#Whamageddon

#whamageddon #fediconfession

Edith Mair 💙💛 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Nobody liked Modern Talking.

Mina 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@edithmair1

True!

@Edith Mair 💙💛

why-not @Heike 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

😂

Noam Bergman 4 weeks ago • diaspora

Got there in the end.

I found #pedantle #947 in 101 guesses!
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥
https://cemantle.certitudes.org/pedantle

#puzzles #notWordle

pedantle - Uncover the Wikipedia page!

Uncover the Wikipedia page by guessing the hidden words.

^cemantle

#puzzles #pedantle #notwordle #947

Jon Sterling 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

This is a very good post by Neel Krishnaswami on how to read papers: https://semantic-domain.blogspot.com/2024/12/how-to-read-papers.html.

This is approximately the same pipeline that I use. Everyone's different and what works for us might not work for you. But it might.

How to Read Papers

One of the key skills for any academic researcher is reading other peoples' papers. The trouble is that our peers write papers faster than w...

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chris martens 🔜 popl 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

and if this approach *doesn’t* seem to work for you, here are some others that might (compiled wisdom from academics with ADHD):

https://lambdamaphone.blogspot.com/2021/08/reading-academic-papers-while-having.html?m=1

Reading academic papers while having ADHD

Disclaimer : Any discussion of experience with disability walks a tricky line between individual and more "general" experiences. I...

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chris martens 🔜 popl 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

i’m really glad Neel wrote this, because it helps me pinpoint the things that ADHD specifically makes difficult about reading papers. for example, in the “scanning” step, the ability to “categorize papers into ‘definitely not’ and ‘maybe’”, as opposed to clicking on a title that seems exciting and losing track of time trying to read it all in one sitting (before you belatedly realize it does not pertain to your goals)

David Weir :v_enby: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@chrisamaphone Useful advice in here also for NT people, thanks for sharing!

@jonmsterling

@chris martens 🔜 popl @Jon Sterling

CF Bolz-Tereick 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

@chrisamaphone now I only need a Mastodon post 'how to read blog posts if you have Adhd'

@chris martens 🔜 popl

ohad 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

There is another way, which I demoed to a student a few weeks ago. I learned it from my supervisor. It is similar to the 4th step, reproduction, and you use it only if you are certain you want to understand the development in the paper and build on it.

You skip all the fluffy bits like informal explanations, introduction, intuition etc, and only look at the maths, and try to build your own intuition, and use the non technical bits only if you're completely lost.

Yes, this is reading a paper in hard mode, and for pieces of good research, all you're doing is reproducing the work with even less help from the authors. But you're also doing it without the biases of the authors, and form your own opinions.

ohad 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

(funnily enough, we applied this technique to a paper of Neel, and since that was an excellent piece of research, all we did was reproduce some of the authors' intuitions)

chris martens 🔜 popl 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@ohad yeah i do this too! it matches pretty well with the “inside out” approach in my post here: https://lambdamaphone.blogspot.com/2021/08/reading-academic-papers-while-having.html?m=1

@ohad

Juan CBS 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

soy incapaz de darle tiempo cuando lo pide desde el mac. Me dice que no hay notificaciones cuando sí me está enviando una push, no sé cómo cojones darle tiempo desde el mac

Nova :neocat_floof_cute: 4 weeks ago • firefish (AP)

Nova is laying on a couch armrest, her paws on the armrest sides. She's looking somewhere to the left

Now she's staring a bit up with very zoomies-but-not-owo eyes

Now she's staring somewhere to the left with her head tilted

Loïs Archer McKeown 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Content warning: #wordle #oldgal #youngpups

#wordle #oldgal #youngpups

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Loïs Archer McKeown 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Content warning: #wordle #oldgal #youngpups

@Charlie

Charlie 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Content warning: #wordle #oldgal #youngpups

Badger AF (he/him) DEMOCRACY 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

I don't mean to use this as a forum for personal opinion, but I fucking hate Mark Wahlberg.

K.R. O'Connell 🇦🇺 ✅I❌ 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

The rich are the enemy
the war is against the Billionaires
They have all the armoury
so just starve them out?

AaronDavid 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

unusual_whales 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

BREAKING: Fed's Barr has sought legal advice amid speculation that Trump might remove him, per WSJ

#news #finance #economics #stocks #options

#Finance #News #Stocks #Economics #options

Resolviendo la incógnita 🌐 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

El caballo de la cueva de Robin Hood es el grabado en una costilla creado hace 12750 años, en el Paleolítico superior. Las líneas añadidas luego podrían representar una empalizada, donde se los dirigía para poder cazarlos. 🏛️Museo Británico 📷Dave #prehistoria #prehistory

Costilla con la imagen grabada de una cabeza de caballo con una serie de líneas verticales.

#prehistory #prehistoria

James Green 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

My thought is that marks like these could have been made by some child picking up a sharp flake & scoring the bone.

I Hope This Email Finds You 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

I hope this email finds you well and busy.

Europe Says 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.europesays.com/1703835/ Salvini assolto, il fatto non sussiste – Processo Open Arms #italy

Salvini assolto, il fatto non sussiste - Processo Open Arms - EUROPE SAYS

L'ex ministro dell'interno dopo 3 anni di processo, imputato di sequestro di persona e rifiuto di atti d'ufficio,

^{EUROPE SAYS (EUROPESAYS.COM)}

#italy

Bilal Barakat 🍉 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Many people were totally cynical about the arrest warrant against Netanyahu, but I said that however much some countries may hem and haw about not wanting to execute it, the risk alone will constrain his freedom of movement. Turns out he won't even dare them to arrest him in (or on his way to) Auschwitz (can you imagine?), that's how terrified he is.

MEActNOW 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

TRUMP VOTER: I’m really starting to regret my vote

ME: People want to believe the worst lie about a black woman and not the worst truth about a white man.

Both Musk and Trump had shown us who they are before the election.

Kamala Harris had shown us she's for the people

Y'all own this mess 💯X💯%

Daniel Supernault 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Loops is looking forward to working with other fediverse projects on compatibility and more if possible.

No matter where you are, you should be able to share a video from PeerTube or another software to your Loops friend, or vice versa, without issues.

Loops will not be a "Mastodon only" compatible platform, so let's chat!

#loops

#loops

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James Smith 💾 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I have *no idea* how 3d models with @manyfold factor in for activitypub crossovers, but if you think of anything, hit me up. 😁

Although... preview video on loops... hmmm...

@Manyfold

Daniel Supernault 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@floppy @manyfold it would be dope to have them render in the feed, we should chat.

even though most ppl may never use this feature, it's one I'd love to support just because of the cool factor, like that would be pretty nifty eh

@James Smith 💾 @Manyfold

James Smith 💾 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@manyfold I would honestly love to work out how to let them be self-rendering on other platforms. Something to think about!

@Manyfold

BentiGorlich 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

What about group style platforms like #mbin and #lemmy?

#lemmy #mbin

Claus C. Schoenleber 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Loops (loops.video)? I am very confused. To whom who is able to answer me this:

In "Terms", especially in par. 2, I read "When you post Contributions, you grant us a license (including use of your name, trademarks, and logos):..." What? Please anybody explain to a bloody greenhorn in juridical terms the endless string of textual pearls of things I give away to them while contributing...

And who is "we" and "us"?

Sorry for inconvenience and thank you for whomever time!

Mark Wyner :vm: 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

that’s great. But there are some critical issues with the iOS app right now. Fundamental things, like a back button that starts everything over.

I’m super excited for Loops to succeed. The UX is gonna have a huge impact on whether or not it does. Is that something y’all are working on?

Daniel Supernault 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

@markwyner The back button issue was fixed in the latest release!

@Mark Wyner :vm:

HU Art Sound (2) 4 weeks ago • diaspora

I hereby sentence you to 25 hundred life sentences plus 1000 years

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aKGmW4b_460svav1.mp4
20 sec #video

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/crime/2020/11/19/judge-imposes-death-sentence-2017-fatal-shooting-mother-daughter/6324102002/
#MarlinLariceJoseph #Joseph #25hundert #life #sentences #judicial #overreach

Judge imposes death sentence in 2017 West Palm Beach fatal shooting of mother, daughter

Marlin Joseph is the first person since 2002 to be sentenced to death in Palm Beach County.

^{Hannah Winston (Palm Beach Post)}

#video #life #judicial #Joseph #overreach #sentences #MarlinLariceJoseph #25hundert

The Globe and Mail 4 weeks ago • unkn (AP)

Retailers and restaurants see spending boost amid tax holiday
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-retailers-and-restaurants-see-spending-boost-amid-tax-holiday/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub

Posted into Canadian Politics @canadian-politics-globeandmail

Retailers and restaurants see spending boost amid tax holiday

For two months, a range of items including kids’ toys, snacks, wine and restaurant food are GST- or HST-free, depending on the province

^{Rosa Saba (The Globe and Mail)}

@Canadian Politics

Kailee ♾️ Voting Midterms God 1 month ago (Received 4 weeks ago) • mastodon (AP)

There are massive protests in #Belgrade, #Serbia due to the deadly nepotism & corruption of pro-Russian Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic.

This Sunday, those who oppose this Moscow lackey, will turn out in force with EU🇪🇺 flags.

Stop Russia now!

#EU #Europe

#EU #europe #serbia #Belgrade

Europe Says 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.europesays.com/1703833/ Barcelona, Sagrada Familia #spain

Barcelona, Sagrada Familia - EUROPE SAYS

Barcelona, Sagrada Familia by AriaSanchez_only

^{EUROPE SAYS (EUROPESAYS.COM)}

#Spain

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Serious question: Is anyone making a list of where it may be possible to purchase a *new* car that isn't just spyware on wheels? I've seen the Consumer Reports study but it all just looks like varying degrees of suckiness.

I'd also settle for one that doesn't make it hard to turn all the tracking off permanently. Or maybe someone's got a nifty piece of hardware that can be plugged in to nix all this nonsense?

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jupiterboy 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

And maybe a manual transmission? Yeah, all this would be great. Bet it wouldn't be as expensive, either.

Zak :1password: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Last I heard, Mozilla did this as well, and all of the options were terrible. Lack of regulation in this space has resulted in zero privacy-respecting options.

░▒▓ Logis ▓▒░ 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@zak My next car might be an old find from craigslist. Or maybe a horse.

Just this past weekend, my battery died on my 2018 jeep and I couldn't 1.) Open the trunk to get the jumper cables in the storage compartment under the floor.
2.) The jeep was in a garage with storage above the front of the vehicle and I couldn't even shift it to neutral without a battery to roll it back to get enough space to open the hood completely. So for about 20min I had the hood open by about 4-6 inches and was just barely able to reach in and connect the battery to some jumper cables. That was able to at least get it in neutral and roll it back to open it fully. If it was parked in any tighter of a position, I dont know what I would have done.

@Zak :1password:

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@L0G1S @zak what a nightmare. wasn’t this what happened to a lot of John Deere equipment?

@Zak :1password: @░▒▓ Logis ▓▒░

Rexana 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Mozilla did a set of 'Privacy Not Included' reviews for major car makers, and largely arrived at the same conclusion which is that they're all fucked.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/categories/cars/

My take is that the easiest thing to do may just be to disable the modem in any given car and then shop based on the vehicle features that don't use networking.

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BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@rexana Oh I might be misremembering. I think it was the Mozilla thing I read, not CR.

@Rexana

David Penfold :verified: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

A GPS jammer?

Edit: and don't connect your phone, use a separate Garmin/TomTom satnav, destroy the SIM card etc etc.

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noplasticshower 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I have seen how to guides for removing a car's SIM

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I'd bet no on the "nifty piece of hardware"; the tracking stuff is largely integrated into the head unit and won't be something you can just send a CAN message or two to shut off (and also you shouldn't really drive with a random doodad plugged into OBD-II anyway; you'll face some very hard questions in the case of an insurance claim).

physically getting to the cellular modem would be a big job and would void your vehicle's warranty, so likely not worth it for a brand new car.

Guillaume Ross 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I doubt you’ll be able to find anything interesting. Maybe a slightly used one that used 3G which is now deprecated?

B05H 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

or is someone publishing guides to cut the modems out of the cars? without power you
can’t connect to anything ya jerks lol

grey 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

https://privacy4cars.com/ might have one

K. Reid Wightman :verified: 🌻 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

In my newer Ford the 'telemetry box' can be unplugged with no ill effect on anything (no more over the air updates for the infotainment system is the only 'downside', if you can call it that). The box is easy to access in the passenger footwell, no tools required to get at it, just crawl in and pull the plug.

It seems even more common to have always-connected-crap in electric vehicles, which, frankly, sucks.

Michael Richardson 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Define "new", given "Ship of Theseus"... I have a "1991" VW Westfalia, and it sure seems like I've replaced every single part. Not alas, manual transmission.

John Breen 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I physically disconnected the wire to the sharkfin LTE antenna and it's still uploading data to Hyundai. I think there is a separate LTE radio antenna, possibly part of the rearview/windshield assembly, and I'm considering finding a wrecked Hyundai in a junkyard to fully disassemble. If I do it right I could made some "side hustle" money...

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Probably the only way this gets better is when all these 5G internet connected cars start DDoSing the highway signs, or each other because they're all compromised by some 0day.

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Gary McGraw 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I did an analysis on the connected cars ISO standards for the small repair shops consortium. Big corps gonna crush the little guys again.

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BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Heck we've had firewalls in cars since the early days of the automobile. Maybe it's time we added another <ducks>. I mean, your car is constantly receiving updates. Why should this machine be any different?

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

CAN firewalls are a thing on modern cars, at least. they got really popular with manufacturers after the bad press around JLR.

Bryan Whitehead 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Pretty much most car models have someone on the internet that has figured out and written a guide to disabling the spyware cellular modems in modern cars. You just have to painfully search each model before you buy… 😣

T2R 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I've been having this concern for a while as my car is 17yrs old and will need replacing soon and I don't have confidence in all the new cars' "security".

Erik Ableson 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Here we go… At least this way you *really* have to stack your zero-days to get anywhere.

(But don’t try this with IPv4 NAT)

A series of firewalls from different vendors, each supposedly protecting against a different nation-state attacker

The internet ->
Cisco Firewall: Protect against Chinese backdoors ->
Huawei Firewall: Protect against US backdoors ->
Checkpoint Firewall: Protect against Russian backdoors ->
Fortinet Firewall: Protect against Israeli backdoors ->
Palo Alto Firewall: IDK all the cool kids have them ->
pfSense Firewall: For good luck -> Internal Network

Peter Cohen 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

*hums Red Barchetta by Rush*

moggie 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Or when someone turns them into weapons that intentionally run over people.

@briankrebs

@BrianKrebs

lemgandi 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Fsck. My car is over 15 years old and I just spent $1500 on the suspension. I'd buy a new car but so far pulling the 5G antenna out of the dashboard intimidates me.

Infinity Counter 🟦 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Looking forward to that day, really.

Dan Hugo (แดน) 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

They'll be sharing links to each other via ActivityPub?
😂🤣😂

Fullmetal Manager 🌈💖🔥 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

*CEOs, the only truly protected class

jackcole 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Oh, the crashes and traffic jams! (Maybe it's already happening.)

Gamy 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

also: physical buttons and dials...

Paul_IPv6 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

"the area commute this morning became much more complicated as a malware attack caused all smart cars to play bumper cars with each other. there were further delays as self driving car removal vehicles were affected and joined in."

😀

SF/cyberpunk is going to be joining satire sites like the onion in struggling to come up with ideas more bizarre than reality.

Svante 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Can we get a hashtaggable name for this concept? Something like #LibreCar?

#librecar

Chris Ferguson 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

It doesn't exist as far as I know...

But if it does...I NEED you to tell people about it.

Adam Stasiniewicz 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

You can always unplug/cut the cellular and wifi antennas. Since the metal body of the car inhibits radio signals, the antennas tend to be externally mounted and (relatively) easy to access.

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@mitch No joke. That's a very legit startup idea.

@Mitch Effendi (ميتش أفندي)

cR0w :cascadia: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I know it's fairly specific, but as an example of a lesser degree of suckiness, the DCM in the Toyota Tacomas up to 2023 can be disabled by simply removing the fuse. The only negative impact I know of is the loss of the microphone for Bluetooth calls.

Dan Goodin 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Yeah, I plan to hold onto my 2015 Honda Fit for the indefinite future. I see replies in this thread suggesting we disable the modem. I'll bet money that doing so will void multiple warranties so 🤷‍♂️

moggie 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

You could learn to ride a motorcycle? As far as I know, they haven't gone all in on collecting data yet.

Or maybe an ebike?

@briankrebs

@BrianKrebs

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@EverydayMoggie Motorcycles are more fun if you are surrounded by nice, smooth roads 😀

@moggie

moggie 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

That's true, unless maybe you get a dual sport.

@briankrebs

@BrianKrebs

MaryMarasKittenBakery 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@EverydayMoggie
Well, aren't you picky??
🤣🤣😜

@moggie

CohenTheBlue 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Could probably install or have installed an aftermarket ECU and control system.

MadAbuela 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Even the thermostats and refrigerators spy on you now………

Zimmie 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Factory Five. 😉

Bay of Fires 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

You could weld a giant faraday cage around it, like those Russian turtle tanks 👍

Leeloo 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Ether-killer + CAN-bus adapter? 🤔😀

jrconlin 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Technically, each vehicle has a SMS chip embedded that is responsible for connecting back out. Technically, it might be possible to remove that chip and thus sever the connection to the mothership, but I don't know what the car would do should that ever happen.

I had an older vehicle that had a service recall because 3G network was no longer offered. Worked fine afterwards, but more modern cars are 🤷 .

bedast 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

The only thing I can really think of is to disable the mobile connection (remove SIM card?) and use something like OVMS. Unfortunately, the maturity of OVMS is very low and primarily targets EVs so if you're looking for a solution for an ICE vehicle…yeah.

#OpenVehicles #OVMS

#openvehicles #ovms

Timo Hetzel 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

German Police got some special BMW i3s without the spyware.

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@TheGibson I had a Jeep for 14 years and really enjoyed it. Also got many skin cancers on upper body as a result :/

@The Gibson 🅅

T2R 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

A pair of wire nippers to cut the antenna.

Paul Hoffman 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

The answers to this question would make a great article, albeit not typical for what you write.

Mark Stosberg 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

An old-enough Nissan Leaf includes a 3G modem that can’t connect anymore if that helps.

sleepy62 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

When buying a new car a few months back I did ask about this. The salesman suggested I could rip the antenna off the roof of the car. Not terribly helpful.

Darwin Woodka 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I'm still driving a 2012 Mazda and dreading replacing it, so.... fortunately I don't drive it much so it's got a long ways to go yet hopefully.

Tom Bortels 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

This is why my "new car" plan is an older VW bus and an EV conversion package.

If someone sells a non-connected "dumb car" - I might reconsider. There's certainly a market.

AlgoCompSynth by znmeb 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

It would greatly surprise me if disabling the spyware is lawful, given how closely the auto and gasoline lobbies are integrated into state and federal legislatures. If anyone's riding herd on this in the USA, it's California.

It sucks to need a car. I moved across the street from a light rail station five years ago and got rid of my 22 year old beater.

⁂Krafty⁂ 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

if you find one, please tell us!

Rastal 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Getting into classic cars might be the solution... they don't have any of the modern spyware and they don't tend to lose value either, unlike new cars which lose thousands the second after you leave the showroom.

As for new, someone needs to invent an #opensource car.

#opensource

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Adam 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

👀 I'm planning on going carless when my '96 Subaru can't be repaired.

We've been noting down things that will be difficult (e.g. picking up a cubic yard of compost) and figuring out how to deal with it.

Between bicycling, busses, and borrowing (or possibly renting) cars a couple times a year, it seems completely doable in our town.

Mister Shade 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I don’t think we can bootleg our way through this problem. The solution probably involves industry regulation, which means we’ll probably have to start by voting the majority party out of Congress in two years.

Yes, that won’t be easy. It’s still worth trying.

Brad Rubenstein “:verified:” 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

For all the suggestions about disabling a new car's spyware access, would the resulting vehicle even be insurable?

I mean, of course you could buy insurance. But I wouldn't be surprised if there were a clause in the fine print that voided claims against a vehicle that had been hacked thusly.

@briankrebs

@BrianKrebs

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noplasticshower 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

and there's this https://youtu.be/_LXKZq0fYDw

Troy 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

There's definitely models out there, the rental companies seem to get them. My last Hertz President Circle car had absolutely no smart features at all. It did have Carplay but without a phone the screen did nothing other than show the backup camera and time. Such an awful car but all they had at 2am.

Michael Rowe 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

if you find one. Would love to see a post on it.

Paul_IPv6 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

do publish what you find.

i went with "don't get rid of your current one". have a 2015 and 2005 vehicle for our household.

i'm lucky in that we are very low mileage (32k and 85k respectively) so they have plenty of life left.

Mans R 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

What happens if you physically remove the radio it uses for communicating?

Simon Michalke 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

The Dacia Spring is very minimalistic in its features and has a Button to disable online services (at least inside Europe). However the "pre-facelift" version does not have this button.

That might have changed with the 2024 version though.

Ultimately it is probably impossible to get a car without any data connection, especially since features like E-Call are now required.

Mark Mullen 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.ebaymotorsblog.com/motors/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/lada_niva_right_front_profile-e1660740428933.jpg

Vanni Di Ponzano ⁂🚴 ❤️ ☕ 🍎 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

The #Enshittification of the automobile industry is well underway.

#enshittification

Scott Francis 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

pretty much have to get a dedicated sports car (Ariel Atom!), or do a build from something older (early Miata?).

Delta Sierra 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I think the only viable solution for a brand-new vehicle would be to disable/physically remove the modem from the vehicle. With a Factory Service Manual that should be easy enough, but actually getting the FSM for a new car could be dificult/expensive.

Of course, that may trigger a MIL/CEL, which (at least in parts of CO) is an automatic emissions test fail. And even if that's not an issue, the data may still exist locally somewhere.

AFAIK there are no new vehicles which *don't* record data. I am annoyed by this, as it prevents me from purchasing an EV.

jack 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

my car insurance policy forbids modifying the car's software in any way, which I feel is a bit unfair

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

So "no" seems to be the answer. Fuck it. Good excuse to get a fully restored Camaro from the 60s or 70s or something.

Cassander 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Yea, I'm honestly thinking about picking up an early/mid-90s sedan for exactly that reason.

rednikki 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I honestly just want to get a Scion xB with a mint condition body and convert it to electric.

Wortex17 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

*looks at the TV market

Oh you were talking about cars? Tomato tomato

vicash 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

there are plenty of choices. You can get any Pre 2010 car.

Neil Craig 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

If budget allows, you could consider an electric-conversion of a classic. These folks did a series or two on Discovery where they custom converted classic cars for customers and they looked legit: https://www.electricclassiccars.co.uk/

Cullen Thomas 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

this might be the only correct answer

karen coyle 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

There are surely VW Bugs that still start first time.

Fringed Crow :battery_ok: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

that's my plan. Any car from the 60's/70's without all this damn tech in it. Easy to work on, inexpensive parts.

I don't need my breaks failing because my low beam went out! /s

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@Fringedcrow Also probably still works after an EMP. Just sayin

@Fringed Crow :battery_ok:

John Breen 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Me and my brothers are considering the build of a Shelby Cobra replica, and I built and rebuilt a Pinto once, so I'm up for that.
What are these Chevy products you speak of ?
#ZeroTrustCars

#zerotrustcars

Sterling 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

If it has a manual transmission you will have state-of-the-art theft deterrent.

Corb_The_Lesser 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I'd buy exactly NONE of the cars I've owned or leased but I'd definitely buy one of the cars I wish I'd owned or leased. I'd require a reliable local maintenance and repair shop with access to parts.

Don Whiteside 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I get the hyperbole but there’s zero chance in hell I’d drive my loved one around in a car that lacks 90s era safety measures. I shouldn’t have to be data mined to get airbags and crumple zones but I will if I have to.

David Penfold :verified: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

A Toyota Hilux will still work after the heat death of the universe.

Thrillho 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Depending on the manufacturer you could probably go as new as mid-2010's. The mid level German Luxury sedans for example have been fairly slow to bring in "phone home" tech in their more basic trims.

I would also be curious to know how difficult it would be to find and remove the SIM card from some of the newer cars and what functionality do you lose once you do so.

Madagascar_Sky 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Get it converted to electric!

I Thought I Saw A 2 :donor: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

As long as it's a bitchin' one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v3CzvQ9e_w

NosirrahSec 🏴‍☠️ 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Admit it. This was your goal knowing full well the answer was, "nothing is Cylon-proofed anymore."

MaryMarasKittenBakery 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Indeed. It's all quite horrible, can't understand why people just meekly accept this BS

smellsofbikes 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

it looks like up until about 2015-2018 you could still replace the car's infotainment system and cut off all external access to the car.
But there's a reason I'm alternating between commuting in a 20 year old car and a 40 year old car, and it is exactly this.

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Paul Chernoff 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

My 2019 Subaru Impreza has tech goodies but cannot get on the Internet. So you don’t have to go too far back in time.

Robert Thau 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Depend on degree of concern, you might also worry about attaching spyware to a vehicle that came in clean -- e.g., by fitting on new tires with RFID (which are getting hard to avoid). https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/3kl3e9/which_manufacturers_insert_a_rfid_tag_inside/

Aphrodite ☑️ :boost_ok: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

My daily driver is a manual transmission 2007 Toyota Yaris because it’s got an engine, a/c, and nothing else. It’s got as few onboard computers as it legally can have. Heck, the aftermarket OBDII tachometer I installed has more computing power than the rest of the car combined.

Only other option I can think of that will be as offline will be retrofitting an older vehicle with Edison Motors’ d-e hybrid kit.

RRB 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I think you have the only reasonable idea. All tech currently is designed to be a permanent colonoscopy

Fritz Adalis 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I recommend electronic ignition and fuel injection if you want to actually drive it. Retrofit is fine.

Salvo 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

this was one of the key reasons why I purchased a Jimny.

The downside is that without those online Tracking and Image Recognition features, it on has a 3.5⭐️ ENCAP rating.

The whole market and industry is designed to enshitify the vehicle ownership experience.

It makes you want to buy a bus pass instead!

Bart Champagne ON6BC :debian: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

If you want an "offline" car, might as well go for a classic yet stylish one: Saab 9-5.

Yes, I have three (but only one NG).
Nope, not selling them, ever.
For the obvious reasons.

Elf-elyn 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Content warning: In which I reflexively shudder over the deathtraps that were the everyday automobiles of my youth

#justSaying

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tom jennings 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

60s cars are actually repairable. Smallish ones, retrofit with a Duratec and transmission. Not electric obviously but a decent compromise.

I would do this if I could afford it. Probably 10k. I have the skills. Donor need to be a rear drive car. Eg small Ford pickup.

My daily driver is a 1960 Rambler American, with the tiny flathead six. With evaporative emissions and electronic carburetor.

Zep 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

90's cars drive better anyway

joriki 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

there's probably something stateside, but this is a fun channel to see conversions on classics

electric classic cars

https://youtube.com/@electricclassiccars

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Cavyherd 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Thank all the gods of Time & Space that I've had the privilege to arrange my life around the decision I made 50 years ago to never own a car. That on choice looks increasingly prescient, & not even for the reasons that were obvious at the time.

I'm aware this is simply not an option for many. It's an indictment of our society that so many are locked into car ownership.

Bebadefabo 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

2006

Sunny 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

So.... we're gonna ban drones and social media from a Chinese company because they might spy on us, but cars with 90% of components made in China and known to spy on us are A-OK.

Got it.

Victor Zambrano 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

https://caterhamcars.com/us/models/explore-the-seven

Explore the Seven

Step into a Seven and step into a sports car with unmatched agility, lightness and raw power.

^Caterham

Abrego 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

isn’t it obvious we need a privacy bill of rights?

Dave Rahardja 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Would it be possible to disconnect all the radio antennas immediately after purchase? After all, software is designed to deal with no signal.

Simon 🐝 🫖 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

get a Renault Zoe 20 or 40 in the UK.
The telematics unit is 3G, which is in the process of being closed down in uk.

Douglas 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

for what it's worth, you can install a dummy load antenna to the cellular modem in most modern vehicles so it can't communicate. However anytime you take the car to a shop, likely all of the data is getting silently offloaded when the technician plugs into the OBD2 port with any dealer or authorized tools.

furicle 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Remove the antennas...

M.S. Bellows, Jr. 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

It's crazy-making that there's not a ginormous "we'll strip all the electronics and make your new car just a car" industry.

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Steve 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@NormanDunbar wire cutters?

@NormanDunbar

toldtheworld 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

wow, this thread is looooong. Have you considered converting a car to electric? E-revolt is planning a 1-day conversion kit for VW Golfs (Golves?) but one-off conversions should cost about the same as a new electric car. I assume conversions won't come tied with to online crap. Plus, new car models are getting larger, which means they start looking more and more like mattress bases with a car on top... not a great look, in my opinion.

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johne 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

It looks like for Subarus one can disconnect the telematics module. bluetooth mic and/or front speakers will stop working but there are aftermarket fixes for that. Also pull fuse for Eyesight cameras. The event data recorder is part of the airbag module which saves info locally if airbags are deployed. Not an authority, my subaru is much older.

Gorgeous na Shock! 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

My ~2016 car uses 3G... which seems to be dead now, so it no longer has Internet connectivity. 😌

VessOnSecurity 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

That's right up there with the question "where do I buy a printer these days that doesn't suck?".

Also, it's one of the reasons why I don't have a car.

Sorry for not being able to help.

a fish named dog 🎗️ 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

relatedly, there should be a website that tracks this stuff. "Dumb home", maybe. Just "how to live with the least 'smart' tech possible", so dumb thermostats, fridges, stoves, cars, etc.

bytebro 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Similar. Looking to trade up my 2008 MX5 to the newer one.

Beeps all the time...

"That beep is because cold engine. That other identical beep is change of speed limit, etc, etc."

"Can I turn them off?"

"Of course, yes, here, here, and here"

"So when I next get in my own car, it'll remember my preferences?"

"Er, no, you need to turn them off every time"

"Fuck that. Bye!"

Mister Moo 🐮 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

And is anyone making a list of new cars that don't have big bright obnoxious screens at night time?

Lincoln Russell 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

My understanding is a dealer / mechanic can disable the LTE antennae fairly easily / inexpensively for many cars. I'd look up forum posts for confirmation of experiences with a particular model; for instance, on most Subarus isn't a big deal and there are tutorials about DIY.

Disappointed_Horse 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

https://intermeccanica.com/

Greys Attempting Survival 🎹 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

When we bought a used Honda Pilot a few years ago, the first thing I did was to find a copy of the service manuals so I could disconnect a bunch of stuff and make some wiring mods. All of the "secret" software access points are in the manuals as well, and there are many tweakable settings - probably a lot more in newer models. (no, I don't remember where I found the pdf manuals. 😀

pockets 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

after reading these comments and the PrivacyNotIncluded link... I'm back to considering refurbing a bus. (I'd mostly settled on a newish cargo van, Ford or RAM, but now...)

nerdwoman 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

We have two 2018 cars at our house because that's as recent as we could get something that wasn't entirely stealing our data. We still debated removing the sim card from the one car, but my mazda is real decent - physical controls for everything, carplay, and no tracking. Kind of amazing tbh. I'll be real upset when I have to upgrade in a decade.

Anyway, I suggest used cars, removing a sim, or maybe surrounding the head unit in foil or something as a faraday cage. It's such a dumpster fire.

Qlaras 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

When I ordered my latest one from GM (build to order, 2023 model year) I got a copy of the full feature matrix guide and there were options that would remove the connected components, but that might have only been for fleet and government purchase.

So it *IS* possible but may be a PITA to order.

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Clemens 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

in many jurisdictions automatic e-call crash reporting now requires a SIM anyway so there are no cars without connectivity anymore. Your best bet in modern cars are possibly European manufacturers because GDPR requires them to ask for consent for tracking, but even that is limited due to what the manufacturers are declaring as legitimate interest.

Alida Antonia 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Do what I have. Buy a car that is 24 years old and keep it up. My 2000 RAV4 runs great. It’s pretty too.

prasket 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@thegibson ive been thinning about picking up a Subaru Sambra truck. Can get them for $4k ish right from the docks here in Tacoma WA.

@The Gibson 🅅

Merospit 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

We got a car a few years ago that tried to upsell us on Apple Carplay. We chose the car because of being able to say no to that, and also it has an actual manual button remote. It still has a modem though...

vaidas 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@mitch how would that even work? Any modem in the car sure as hell doesn't care about any services/proxies you might be running there.

@Mitch Effendi (ميتش أفندي)

casey is remote 1 month ago • unkn (AP)

Short answer: A new car? You can't.

nboynorge 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I dont think it is possible, at least not in europe.
As far as I know cars *must* have a sim card. The excuse is to be able to find you in case of emergency.
Where the data goes, how much data it produces, how long it is stored... remains a mistery to me.

The other problem is people... they dont care.

I asked my provider to shut the "spyware" down (which is not possible, because of legal requirements). Then I asked if I was the only customer asking for it. The answer was "Yes, indeed. Actually a couple of people came to have it turned on in old models where it was optional." That way they can see how many "drive-points" the app gives you and how long one drove and other statistics. The guy showed me then his app with all his trips in the last 3 years.

"Now I know where you live" - I said.
"Google knows, too. Who cares?" was the answer.

git summon-demon 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

don't connect it to any networks?

possibly disable any antennas?

Matt 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

there must be government / law enforcement agencies that require untracked vehicles. Maybe fleet vehicles have "vanilla" options?

David 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Others have already covered the “no such product exists in the market” answer, so I’ll just throw some wishful thinking into the Ethernet winds and suggest to the #infosec / hacker community that it seems we’ll collectively need to create the @frameworkcomputer of cars. There’s enough knowledge and money among a sufficiently large subset of us, especially if enough late career professionals decide they’d rather not entrust the detailed time-series geolocation of their family to a company which can’t avoid recapitulating the vulnerabilities of the 90s, and to the data brokers to which it sells that data, and to the advertisers and governments and criminal organizations buying from those data brokers.

#infosec @Framework :fedora: :ubuntu:

TheYellowShepard 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

What if you used a virus or worm to delete all the data the vehicle collects?

Lee 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Just buy a classic car, that has been redone, for $20k.

You’ll enjoy driving again.

Stewart Sims 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I think if that is a priority you'd be much better off just buying an older car.

Scott 1 month ago • unkn (AP)

shop around, custom cars exist. https://www.icon4x4.com/fj

James Tinmouth 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I think it's time for a custom firmware. For cars and for TVs I feel.

๒๏₪ 🐝 STIL NOTDED 🌻 :donor: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I’ll keep repairing my 2016 VW Sportwagon until I can’t get parts 🙃

108,000 miles

MossyRua 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Buy an Old Volvo. Anything before 2008

Lorien Brownie 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Any 2018 to 2025 Toyota Corolla (E210) can be neutered in 5 minutes without any special knowledge or tools.

One screw on an accessible panel that leads to an accessible wire attached to the DCM, which can be unplugged.

This results in only minor trade-offs around one speaker and both microphones.

BrianKrebs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@mrskycar The great thing about the Corolla is if you treat it right, it will last 200-300k miles easy. The bad thing is also that it will last 200-300k miles.

@Lorien Brownie

🚲 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

My dream is an incredibly barebones electric car will come on the market and undercut all these bloated computers on wheels, a modern VW bug of sorts.

J L 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Unfortunately, the best way to go in this scenario is to get a classic (anything before they started putting chips and control boards in) and just pay the money to have it converted over to full EV if you want to go that route or just look to keep the as-is well maintained.

@martlund 🌲🐶🇸🇪🇨🇱🌈 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

If get an answer, please share

billy joe bowers - hates nazis 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

My plan is to never buy a new car again.
I'd like to have an electric car, but too much suck.

Kevin Leecaster 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@billyjoebowers
https://revival.autos/electric-classic-car/in-depth-look-at-the-top-10-electric-car-conversion-companies-in-the-usa/#:~:text=In-Depth%20Look%20at%20the%20Top%2010%20Electric%20Car,Motors%20...%208%20Zero%20Labs%20...%20More%20items

@billy joe bowers - hates nazis

J. Peterson 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

It took about 20 minutes of fiddling to shut off the backchannels in my daughter's new Toyota. The one "loss" is the emergency call is disabled.

Janis 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Well, I had to go in to a dealership for my Chevy Bolt updates that happen over metal.
Running or not, without the OnStar internet button pushed, I can't sniff out any wireless signal (tested in 2G-only area, and closer to town/5G). If I don't plug into a public or commercial charger & just plug into my wall, and don't connect Android Auto, I'm convinced there's no connectivity.

I'd love for someone to point out something I missed.

demi7en 🎗 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

This needs to become a widely adopted thing or being tracker-free means shining like a beacon...

4turrets_nodefects 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

don't know how much telemetry may still be present but Ford Transits and Mercedes Sprinters can have a surprising amount of stuff ripped out of them if you do a custom order.

mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm bitPickup 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Sounds like some real good oldtimer is becoming the best choice. With good maintenance and as less use as possible, using public transport as an option if available, might even still be a CO2 emission friendly alternative.

Simplicator 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@alan Really wish we had a gov’t-funded program called #ElectrifyMyRide

#electrifymyride @Alan Langford

M.S. Bellows, Jr. 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

@Simplicator @alan Give this kid all the money. And I mean ALL the money: https://www.drive.com.au/news/australian-uni-electric-motor-hybrid-car-invention/

@Alan Langford @Simplicator

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Fredrik 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I made the car dealer disconnect the hardware that performs the datacollection/reporting when I got a new lease, there was no way to disable this via software that they knew, I HATE this shit with the data hoarding in fucking cars, just stop.

l00g33k 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

maybe just find and remove the cellular modem antenna for the connectivity?

AlexanderMars 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

well, you could also go with a low volume manufacturer, or something like a kit car. You’d mostly be limited to sports cars and hot rods, which would of course mean all kinds of comprises. No one would be tracking you through.

David Penington 1 month ago • ActivityPub

The "privacy policies" are extensive, cover-your-ass legal work. I'd look at a car from a non-US oriented manufacturer with relatively low US market share & a relatively low cost vehicle. Eg. European produced (good data protection laws) but not BMW/Mercedes/Volvo. Or a Suzuki, eg Suzuki e Vitara

Brokar 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Honestly? This is the reason i don't buy a "modern" car. If i cannot disable the surveillance crap that's not for me. The manufacturer has NO, absolutely NO business in my whereabouts and how i drive. At least not unless he pays me a truckload of money for it or give me half price off.

I drive a 2001 BMW and i guess i will drive it as long as it doesn't fall apart and spare parts are available.

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A B 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I seem to recall from Mozillas attempt at documenting cars with predatory 'privacy policies' that Ford came out as not bad. The Ford Maverick is a simple and low-cost vehicle that afaik does not have a built-in transmitter unless you go for Blue Cruise etc.

bouriquet 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Go find a used car from 2001-2005 with low mileage. Pay whatever it takes to make it reliable if it needs work.
Simplicity is golden. My 2001 Audi does not have a large LCD display in the center. It doesn’t try to pair with my phone. It has real switches not areas on a touchscreen. I can access diagnostics with a $50 tool and even reset the check engine light.
It’s even fun to drive.
And it didn’t cost $60k.

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Tushar Chauhan 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I have often asked similar questions about Smart TVs.

Matcha 🍵 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Aside from just being spyware on wheels, the amount of nonsense mechanics have to go through just to get permission to diagnose problems in overly computerized vehicles is ridiculous.

I want a dumb phone and a dumb car to match my dumb brain. Enjoying these comments lol

Irina 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

One more reason not to drive, then.

Mario Ostolaza 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Just try this one

Christiaan Jacobs 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

how about NOT buying a NEW car, but instead changing the old fossil engine to an electric engine? There are numerous (small) companies that can convert any car to electric, giving you modern drive (and old looks), and without all spyware that goes into the new vehicles.

David John Crook 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I'm in the UK and I think you are in the US so this may not be relevant.
Moaning about modern cars at a garage, they said some people like Dacias which are basically a Renault without the fancy bits. They use this as a cheap runaround and a classic car for best.

Daniel Quinn 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I find these to be pretty awesome: https://www.bicicapace.com/bikes/classicona/

smiddi 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Pull the fuse for the cellular communication. If the car has one (fuse).

Ozzie D, NP-hard :bikepump: :vegan: 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Nice --I'm glad this project is still in development, and they're focusing on utes to "stress test" the design (latest update here: https://www.revr.tech/so/43P8Zh4p-?languageTag=en).

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Scott. 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

Retro is an option.

https://www.icon4x4.com/br

ICON4x4 • ICON BR

Inspired by the ‘66-’77 Ford Bronco. Removable hard top design. Plenty of giddyup

^{www.icon4x4.com}

BardMoss the Linux Guy 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

This is why I drive a 2014 Mazda 2. There are virtually no bells and whistles. There is a very minor security feature, and the computer is only there to run the fuel injectors. I do have tire pressure sensors, but they don't report anything until they are low. To the best of my knowledge I have no spyware.

tk 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

how about citroën C3 electric? The cheaper option does not even have an entertainment system

Fully operational gator system 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

I just got the Niro hybrid LX (base), and it VERY CLEARLY has no connectivity while having some modern tech. It doesn't even have SirusXM, you get HDRadio instead (that's... Supposed to be a downgrade? Sirius sucks and is too expensive!) so you don't even get the firmware downloads from that. It's also absolutely dead to the Kia app, so I'm fairly certain it has no on-board cellular modem otherwise they would use it to "remind you when service is due". It doesn't even have maps unless you plug in your phone. My key is even a key that I have to put into a keyhole and turn to start the car. To update the firmware, I have to put a flash drive physically into the USB slot.

The other trims have a different radio, and it definitely does have its own cellular modem and XM downlink. The Kia app lets them control the vehicle (so the cellular modem has access to the canbus, very cool super secure) and it has a push button start... That seems to have issues staying paired to the vehicle in 2025, so real key for the win.

Andrei Kucharavy 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

last time I checked, Dacias were stripped to bare bones to hit the price target (~15k USD for a new small SUV), and were essentially 2013-15 electronics tech. Not sure you can get them in the US though, or if all the other driving comforts are an acceptable compromise to you.

Timo Geusch 1 month ago • mastodon (AP)

just as an aside, the car itself might already be spyware on wheels, and on top it's apparently not uncommon that car dealers install GPS trackers on them on top of all of that.

From what I've heard from acquaintances in the trade, some lenders make this a condition of writing a loan.

In my case, I recently found a GPS tracker on a car I bought a few months ago from a well known nationwide chain of used car dealers. The wrinkle being, I didn't have financing on the car in the first place.

To their credit, the salesperson did mumble something about a tracker but mentioned that it wouldn't require one due to the lack of financing.

Can't easily tell if it's enabled or not, but the lights are on so I'm assuming it was phoning home. Kicking myself for not checking earlier...

Dave 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Face it, any "new" car will have computers. You have to go back to the Seventies to find cars that don't.

Melissa BearTrix 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Are you ?

Hugz & xXx

A row of old 1900's row of shops on the main road, and the back of a billboard has graffiti, and in big writing it says ready

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Melissa BearTrix 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

@Heliograph

Giggles

Love your Santa hat ... Hugz

Hugz & xXx

@Heliograph

Heliograph 4 weeks ago • ActivityPub

just trying to blend in

Paul Carroll 4 weeks ago • ActivityPub

Just finished our Christmas card featuring our recently adopted 22lb maine coon PJ. The other cats are still not super happy about the big boy.

#blender3d #mastoArt #art #cats #CatsOfMastodon

3D render of a small house dwarfed by a gigantic cat. In the front lawn is the rest of the family, including the other two cats (Frank & Ramona).

#art #cats #blender3d #mastoart #catsOfMastodon

Paul Carroll 4 weeks ago • ActivityPub

For reference here is PJ basking in the sun #cats #CatsOfMastodon

A large maine coon cat sitting on our bed with dramatic lighting.

#cats #catsOfMastodon

Cassandra Granade 🏳️‍⚧️ 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

If there's one thing I've learned the hard way, it's that following good-natured expert advice is often a bad idea. Not because the advice is wrong, but because advice is just that: advice.

No one knows what makes you you better than you. No one knows the peculiarities of your situation better than you. No matter how correct advice might be, it also might just not fit, and that's OK.

Cassandra Granade 🏳️‍⚧️ 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

The best advice is offered without expectation, fully cognizant of the fact that it might not be what you need. There's kindness in sharing experience without making demands, and part of respecting that kindness can mean knowing when to disagree.

Europe Says 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.europesays.com/1703831/ Fábrica para produção da aeronave portuguesa em Ponte de Sor custará mais de 30 milhões de euros #portugal

Fábrica para produção da aeronave portuguesa em Ponte de Sor custará mais de 30 milhões de euros - EUROPE SAYS

Fábrica para produção da aeronave portuguesa em Ponte de Sor custará mais de 30 milhões de euros by

^{EUROPE SAYS (EUROPESAYS.COM)}

#Portugal

Europe Says 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.europesays.com/1703829/ Volkskrant: Huilend zorgpersoneel, verwaarloosde ouderen – betrokkenen over de misstanden in een ‘mensonterend’ verpleeghuis in Amsterdam #netherlands

Volkskrant: Huilend zorgpersoneel, verwaarloosde ouderen - betrokkenen over de misstanden in een ‘mensonterend’ verpleeghuis in Amsterdam

#Netherlands

Lake Michigan! Live! 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Current* conditions near Holland, MI:

Telescopic view looking southwest onto the Holland pierheads jutting into Lake Michigan off Holland State Park. // Image captured at: 2024-12-20 20:36:32 UTC (about 26 min. prior to this post) // Current Temp in Holland: 30.83 F | -.65 C // Precip: overcast clouds // Wind: NE at 11.990 mph | 19.29 kph // Humidity: 78%

Its Not A Hoax ☑️ 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Madeleine Begun Kane 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

Republican Gamesmanship #Limerick
http://www.madkane.com/madness/2024/12/20/republican-gamesmanship-limerick/

#Politics #USPolitics #USPOL #Trump #MikeJohnson #Musk #Shutdown #Limericks #MicroPoetry #Poetry #Poems #Republicans #House #Legislation #GovShutDown

The Republicans’ game is a mess.
Think they know what they’re doing? (God bless!)
At best, they are wreckers.
They’re NOT playing checkers.
And they’re certainly NOT playing chess!

©Madeleine Begun Kane MadKane.com

#Trump #Politics #Republicans #poems #Legislation #shutdown #Musk #poetry #USPolitics #House #uspol #limerick #limericks #micropoetry #govshutdown #mikejohnson

Europe Says 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.europesays.com/1703825/ NATO liikmesriikide kaitsekulutused, %-des SKP-st. Eesti on teisel kohal Poola järel #estonia

#estonia

bleeping_computer [unofficial] 4 weeks ago • diaspora

US charges Russian-Israeli as suspected LockBit ransomware coder

#security #bleeping computer #bleepingcomputer #computers #technology #news #education #updates #tech
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Katherine Bond 1 month ago • diaspora

It’s just starting to snow…maybe up to 5”. Perhaps there will be a White Christmas after all.

#snow #gif

#snow #gif

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Donna McClure 4 weeks ago • diaspora

Real snow! I'm sure it was very pretty @Katherine Bond. We also have a large variety of food from all over the world which makes eating out fun. I do like to know what I am eating! 😄

@Katherine Bond

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Katherine Bond 4 weeks ago • diaspora

That’s what was happening yesterday for us @Mark Wollschlager. We feel pretty lucky to have some snow. ❄️

@Mark Wollschlager

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Europe Says 4 weeks ago • mastodon (AP)

https://www.europesays.com/1703823/ Šių metų gruodį apklausus V. Šiliauską, jis nurodė, kad negali nei patvirtinti, nei paneigti anksčiau savo duotų parodymų apie korupciją Kauno savivaldybėje. #lithuania

Šių metų gruodį apklausus V. Šiliauską, jis nurodė, kad negali nei patvirtinti, nei paneigti anksčiau savo duotų parodymų apie korupciją Kauno savivaldybėje.

#lithuania

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