"People think, oh, you just want to slow down the entire economy and this is obviously going to leave us in poverty. But degrowth actually calls for, let's identity very energy intensive and materially intensive forms of production that are also socially unnecessary. Like mostly are organised around capital accumulation and elite consumption, etc, etc."
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Tech Won't Save UsYou don't need to increase production of bad things to increase production of good things."
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Tech Won't Save UsYou issue the currency to fund whatever you require. This is basic to industrial policy. Of course, there’s limits to your ability to do this. And the limit, of course, is inflation.
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Tech Won't Save UsAnd that’s going to cause inflation unless you reduce demand elsewhere in the economy and that’s precisely what degrowth provides an important answer to is we can scale down less necessary forms of production, thus liberating resources ..."
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Tech Won't Save UsWe could have much ... more durable products. We could have better public transit systems that are high quality, efficient, integrated ... So, we could have much more efficient buildings. Our appliances could be more efficient."
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Tech Won't Save UsAnd we’re sort of stuck in this process where we just can’t get those things. And so we have a scarcity of sort of good technology."
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Tech Won't Save UsLet me first just back up and point to something else, which is that when you say these things, people are like: Oh, that sounds like a totalitarian economy where you have some kind of shadowy elites kind of planning things. I’m like, mate, we actually already live in a totalitarian economy, where capital controls what gets produced."
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Tech Won't Save UsYes, we have political democracy in many countries, but when it comes to the economic system, there’s not even the pretense of democracy. We effectively work in totalitarian institutions where we’re just told what to do."
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Tech Won't Save UsAnd the innovations that truly change lives usually start in free work or gov funded work before being highjacked.
> Look at the measure used… it’s usually ‘$X made!’ instead of lives improved
Ae, and as the idiom goes, what we measure is what we optimise for. I think the last NZ Labour government did something truly innovative when they built measures of child poverty into the Public Finance Act. If NatACT First haven't already reversed this, as they have so many other progressive reforms, I look forward to seeing the trend of these numbers across this term, and how it compares.
You don't need to increase production of bad things to increase production of good things."
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Tech Won't Save Us@emory Well, what you can get for it, at any given time, is the highest price the market will bear, as they say. It's only loosely coupled to the cost of bringing it to market, and in in a financialised economy, it's only loosely coupled to demand. The main variable that determines price is where on the wealth ladder the demand is coming from.
The further up the wealth ladder you go, the more finance potential buyers have access to, allowing them to bid up the price beyond their own current buying power. Further down, expression of demand is limited more and more to the liquidity people have right now, and predatory forms of finance like credit cards and payday loans.
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